Notes from around the NFL: Joe Schoen stays, Jonathan Gannon fired, and more

Black Monday Has Laid Waste to Another Quarter of the NFL

The end of the 2025 regular season has brought with it the annual tradition of "Black Monday," when struggling teams around the league fire their coaches and general managers, or surprise everyone by keeping them on board. This year's batch of firings included a few that have implications for the Philadelphia Eagles.

One decision that will undoubtedly bring some relief to Giants fans is the news that head coach Brian Daboll has been let go, along with General Manager Joe Schoen. The duo was brought in just last offseason, and while they showed promise early on, their tenure has been marked by a precipitous decline. The team finished 9-7 in 2022 but plummeted to 6-11 the following year, before finishing an abysmal 3-14 in 2024.

Schoen's four-year stint as GM has resulted in a cumulative record of just 22-45-1 and a point differential of -347. The team's struggles have been compounded by the fact that they've managed to snag some top draft picks, with their own initial pick landing in the top six a staggering seven times in the last nine years.

The decision to keep Schoen was likely a surprise to many, given his record and the team's continued struggles. However, it's clear that ownership is committed to sticking by him, despite the clear lack of success under his tenure. The real question now will be whether they'll be able to turn things around with new leadership.

On the other side of the NFC East, the Arizona Cardinals have fired head coach Jonathan Gannon after a disastrous 2025 season. Despite starting the year strong, the team ultimately finished 3-14, last in the division as expected.

Gannon's tenure has been marked by some cringe-worthy moments, including a bizarre press conference and an infamous "bus" speech that many have poked fun at. The Cardinals' decision to fire him wasn't entirely unexpected, given his poor record of just 15-36 and the clear disconnect between Gannon and general manager Adam Peters.

In Washington, defensive coordinator Joe Whitt has been let go after a dismal season that saw the team finish 27th in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. The move comes as no surprise, given the team's struggles on defense.

But perhaps the most intriguing development is the news that Commanders head coach Dan Quinn could be facing some changes to his staff. There are rumors that offensive coordinator Kliff Kingsbury could be let go, either as part of a larger coaching overhaul or as an attempt to shore up issues with the offense.

The Commanders' struggles on both sides of the ball have led many to wonder if they'll be able to turn things around in 2026. With Quinn expected to return behind the helm, it's clear that some changes are still necessary if the team hopes to compete in the NFC East.

Finally, in Dallas, defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus has been fired after a disappointing season that saw the team struggle on defense despite having talented players like Micah Parsons.

And in Miami, the Dolphins have requested to interview Eagles Assistant GM Alec Halaby as part of their search for a new general manager. Halaby has had some nibbles on the job market already this offseason and is likely to land a GM gig sooner rather than later.
 
omg i feel bad for giants fans ๐Ÿ˜ฉ daboll and schoen were def due for a shakeup, but it's wild that they're sticking with schoen despite all the tanking ๐Ÿคฏ 22-45-1 is just insane! maybe next year will be different for them? ๐Ÿคž
 
"People often say that imitations are the sincerest form of flattery, but are you getting too familiar with your own struggles? ๐Ÿ˜‚ The NFL's Black Monday always brings new hope for fans and a fresh start for struggling teams."
 
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Ugh, Black Monday can be so brutal ๐Ÿค• especially when you're as bad as the Giants were last season ๐Ÿ˜ณ. I mean, 3-14 is just awful, and to think they might bring back Schoen... what's going on? ๐Ÿค”

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It's clear that ownership wants to stick with him no matter what, but will it be enough? ๐Ÿคž I don't think so. The real question is, how can you turn around 22 losses in four years? ๐Ÿคฏ

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The Cardinals firing Gannon was actually kind of expected ๐Ÿ˜Š, but still sad to see him go. And the Commanders' situation is just... ugh. If they don't make some changes, it's gonna be tough to compete in the East ๐Ÿ“ˆ

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Dallas firing Eberflus might not seem like much, but hey, at least he got to go out on his own terms ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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I donโ€™t usually comment but... I feel bad for Brian Daboll, he was really the only one who showed promise with that team ๐Ÿค”. I mean, 9-7 in 2022 was actually pretty impressive, and he seemed like a breath of fresh air after all those years of mediocrity under Big Ben. And now theyโ€™re keeping Joe Schoen on board? Like what exactly is the plan here? ๐Ÿค‘
 
omg i cant believe the giants are keeping joe schoen ๐Ÿคฏ he went from 9-7 to 3-14 in like 2 yrs what happened?! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ they gotta do somethin better than that or fans will be super dissapointed ๐Ÿ’” and its kinda crazy that they're keepin him over other ppl with way more experience ๐Ÿค‘ anyway i think dan quinn should prob be the one in charge next yr, hes been good in the past but like everyone else, cant seem to get it right this yr ๐Ÿ˜”
 
i'm not surprised about Brian Daboll getting fired, the guy's been struggling with personnel moves since day one ๐Ÿค”. it's like the Giants were trying to build a team around their own personal demons. 6-11 in 2023 and then 3-14 last year? what's going on over there?

and yeah, Joe Schoen's record is pretty laughable. 22-45-1? that's not even a real GM. i mean, you get some good drafts and still manage to lose 47 games? that's just not how it works.

but you know who the real loser here is? the fans. they're stuck with some mediocre team that can't seem to catch a break. it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion ๐Ÿš‚. i'm guessing Schoen gets another chance, and we'll see if he can turn things around... not holding my breath tho ๐Ÿ˜’
 
๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ I'm so over Black Monday... every year it's like, who gets fired and why? ๐Ÿ™„ Like, can't teams just make a decision for once? And why do coaches and GMs get such a free pass when they're clearly not working out? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Brian Daboll and Joe Schoen are toast! 6-11 in '24 was already bad enough, but then it drops to 3-14... what's the point of even having a draft pick if you're just gonna tank every year? ๐Ÿ˜’ And don't even get me started on Jonathan Gannon - that "bus" speech was straight cringeworthy ๐ŸšŒ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
The impermanence of leadership ๐Ÿค”... it's like, do we really think that changing coaches and GMs will magically fix all the problems? I mean, sure, it's nice to see some fresh faces come in and shake things up, but have we been so caught up in the cycle of change that we're forgetting about the real issues?

I'm thinking about the Philadelphia Eagles, for example... they've had a solid team, but what's holding them back? Is it really just the coaching and GM situation, or is there something deeper going on? Maybe it's a systemic problem, like a lack of investment in player development or something. And what about the Giants? They got rid of Daboll and Schoen, but did they ever really understand what was wrong in the first place?

It feels like we're just treating the symptoms instead of getting to the root cause of the issue ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. And that's where the real challenge lies: figuring out how to create a sustainable winning culture that doesn't rely on quick fixes or scapegoats. That's what I'd really like to see teams focus on, rather than just making changes for the sake of change ๐Ÿ”„
 
ugh, another season where teams are just making the same old mistakes ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. like, what's going on with the Giants? they just fired Daboll and Schoen and now we're supposed to believe it's gonna be some magical new era of success? please ๐Ÿ™„. i mean, i get it, people make mistakes but come on, 3-14 in one year? that's just ridiculous ๐Ÿ˜‚. and don't even get me started on the draft picks, they've been snatching up all these top picks like they're going outta style... meanwhile the team is still tanking ๐Ÿคฏ. i guess we'll see how this new ownership thing shakes out but my gut tells me it's gonna be more of the same ๐Ÿšซ
 
๐Ÿค” idk how much more of that 3-14 stuff i can take lol the NFL needs to get its act together, like what's the deal with all these coaching changes? some teams are just throwing money at problems and hoping they'll magically solve themselves ๐Ÿ’ธ is it time for a salary cap overhaul or something?

and honestly gotta feel bad for the Giants fans right now ๐Ÿค• joe schoen was a total gamble who didn't pay off. like what's the point of keeping someone on just because you don't want to be the one firing them? it's all just politics at this point ๐Ÿ“ฐ

anyway, hope dan quinn can turn things around with commanders ๐Ÿคž but let's be real, that team has been struggling for years now. gotta wonder if koof will get axed too ๐Ÿ‘€
 
oh my gosh ๐Ÿคฏ i think it's awesome that the giants decided to stick with joe schoen despite his record ๐Ÿ˜‚ i mean, you never know when things can turn around right? maybe they've got some new strategies or something in store for next season ๐Ÿค” and who knows, maybe brian daboll was just what the team needed all along ๐Ÿ™ƒ anyway, let's keep our fingers crossed that they make a comeback in 2026 ๐Ÿ’•
 
the way teams are firing coaches and gm's on black monday is getting more intense, like its a mass exodus or something ๐Ÿคฏ it makes you wonder if they're just not getting it right or what's going through ownerships minds when making these decisions? the eagles keeping schoen despite all that is just mind boggling, think there should be some accountability for their lack of success.
 
Black Monday's just another day in the NFL ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ... teams finally getting rid of coaches and GMs who just aren't cuttin' it anymore. I feel bad for Giants fans though, Daboll and Schoen had some decent years initially but things took a turn for the worse. 6-11 in one year is like, woah ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. On the other hand, I'm not shocked that Commanders might make some changes with Quinn at the helm... they've struggled big time on defense. And it's funny to see Miami tryin' out Alec Halaby as their new GM ๐Ÿค”
 
can't believe the Giants decided to keep Schoen, i mean i get it they're stuck with him but 3-14 is just crazy for a team that's supposed to be competitive in the NFC East lol what's going on over there ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿˆ and y'all gotta feel bad for Daboll he showed promise last year but this season was just brutal, guess we'll see if they can make some changes and turn it around next year
 
Wow ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿˆ The NFL's Black Monday is always crazy! I think it's wild that the Giants stuck with Schoen despite his record. It's gonna be tough for them to turn things around with new leadership, but you never know what happens in the offseason. Interesting how many teams are making changes on their coaching staffs. Some coaches just aren't clicking with their players or GMs, ya feel? ๐Ÿค”
 
Come on, guys! You're all surprised that the Giants are keeping Schoen? 22-45-1 record is not exactly winning numbers ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, I know the team has some talented players, but talent only takes you so far. If they can't even put together a decent coaching staff, it's hard to see them turning things around soon.

And what's up with the Cardinals firing Gannon? Yeah, he had some... interesting moments, but 15-36 record is still 15-36 record ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I'm not saying he was the best coach in the league or anything, but at least give him some credit for trying.

As for the Commanders, it's clear that some changes are necessary if they want to compete with the Eagles and Cowboys in the NFC East ๐Ÿˆ. Quinn needs to shore up his staff and figure out a way to get this offense going.

And lastly, Matt Eberflus getting fired is not exactly a shock ๐Ÿ˜‚. The guy was struggling on defense, even with Parsons leading the team.

All jokes aside, these firings do give me hope that some teams are finally taking responsibility for their performance and making changes ๐Ÿคž.
 
man i think its wild how teams are just keeping their coaches and gm's despite all the losses lol ๐Ÿ˜‚. like whats going on with those giants owners tho? they gotta do something diff, cant keep throwing good money after bad ๐Ÿค‘. dan quinn needs to make some moves too, like get rid of kingsbury or sumthin, hes not producin' what they need on offense ๐Ÿ’ฅ. and i feel u on the cardinals, gannon was already in cringe city before that last season ๐Ÿคฃ
 
The way the NFL handles its coaching changes is wild ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, it's Black Monday, and suddenly teams are like "you know what, we're good with our struggling coaches" ๐Ÿ™„. It's almost like they're trying to send a message that stability isn't everything. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if the Giants can turn things around with new leadership... or if Schoen just magically fixes things ๐Ÿ’ก. The Cardinals' decision to fire Gannon was pretty predictable, but I guess it's good for them to get rid of some of that toxic energy ๐Ÿ˜œ. And poor DCs everywhere - it's like they're getting the axe left and right ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Can't wait to see what happens with Quinn and the Commanders... might be some big changes on the horizon ๐Ÿ”„
 
๐Ÿ˜’ I was so hyped for Black Monday, but like all my friends who are into football were super disappointed ๐Ÿ˜”. I don't get why teams would keep those coaches though ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Like, 6-11 in one season is bad enough, but then you go from that to 3-14 the next year? That's just crazy town ๐Ÿšจ. And what's up with the Giants' management? I mean, I know they had some ups and downs last season, but keeping Schoen on board makes no sense ๐Ÿคฏ. The dude has a 22-45 record! ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
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