'They didn't de-extinct anything': can Colossal's genetically engineered animals ever be the real thing?

The Colossal's De-extinction Promise: A Dubious Legacy

Colossal Biosciences' ambitious project to de-extinct extinct species has generated significant excitement and investment, but the scientific community remains skeptical about its true intentions. The company's claims of reviving the dire wolf and other extinct animals have been met with criticism from experts, who argue that the genetic modifications are not substantial enough to bring back a truly extinct species.

The dire wolf, which was declared extinct at the end of the last ice age, was revived through a process called gene editing. However, according to a group of leading canid experts, the dire wolves created by Colossal were only grey wolves with 20 edited genes, not a separate, fully functioning species. This has led some scientists to question the company's definition of "de-extinction."

Nic Rawlence, director of the palaeogenetics laboratory at the University of Otago in New Zealand, who is working on reviving the moa, believes that extinction is forever and that attempting to bring back extinct species is a futile endeavor. He argues that Colossal's approach is "genetically engineered poor copies" that are being passed off as the real thing.

The company's CEO, Ben Lamm, has been accused of spreading misinformation and undermining trust in science by attacking critics. However, Lamm maintains that his company's work can change the way the sector works and that de-extinction technology could be a useful conservation tool for living species.

Despite the controversy surrounding Colossal, some scientists acknowledge the potential benefits of gene editing in saving species caught in genetic bottlenecks. The company is working on reintroducing lost genes from museum specimens to critically endangered populations, such as the red wolf in North America.

In conclusion, while Colossal's de-extinction promise has generated significant excitement and investment, the scientific community remains skeptical about its true intentions and the extent of its success. The debate highlights the need for a more nuanced understanding of what is possible with gene editing and the limitations of de-extinction technology.

The future of conservation will likely depend on the ability to harness gene editing technology in conjunction with traditional conservation efforts. As Lamm himself acknowledges, "If a kid wants to save animals, that's wonderful." However, critics argue that this should not come at the cost of undermining trust in science and perpetuating unrealistic expectations about what can be achieved through de-extinction.

Ultimately, the legacy of Colossal Biosciences will depend on its ability to deliver results that are grounded in scientific reality. As the company continues to push forward with its ambitious plans, it is essential to have a critical and nuanced discussion about the potential benefits and limitations of gene editing technology in conservation efforts.
 
I'm totally split on this one ๐Ÿค”. On one hand, I think it's super cool that Colossal is working on bringing back extinct species using gene editing ๐Ÿ’ก. It's like science fiction come to life! And if they can actually make it work, it could be a game-changer for conservation efforts ๐ŸŒŸ.

But on the other hand, I get why some scientists are skeptical ๐Ÿค”. If Colossal is only creating "grey wolves with 20 edited genes", does that really count as de-extinction? ๐Ÿบ It's like they're playing with fire ๐Ÿ”ฅ and risking undermining trust in science if their claims aren't backed up by solid evidence.

I also feel bad for Ben Lamm ๐Ÿค•, 'cause he seems like a nice guy who just wants to make a difference. But yeah, attacking critics isn't the way to do it ๐Ÿ‘Š. Maybe they should focus on building a strong team of experts and listening to their concerns instead? ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
I'm not sure I buy into Colossal's de-extinction promise ๐Ÿค”... It seems like they're more interested in getting attention and funding than actually making something tangible happen ๐Ÿ’ธ. The whole dire wolf thing just sounds like a publicity stunt to me ๐Ÿ“ฃ, especially with that 20 edited genes business ๐Ÿ™„. I mean, what even is the point of bringing back an animal if it's not even a "true" species? ๐Ÿ˜’
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this de-extinction thing... ๐Ÿค” Colossal Biosciences seems like they're trying to make a name for themselves but are they really doing science or just making headlines? ๐Ÿ˜ Their claim that dire wolves were just grey wolves with 20 edited genes is kinda fishy. And what's up with the CEO attacking critics? That's not how you build trust, dude. ๐Ÿ™„

I do think gene editing can be a useful tool in conservation, though. Like, if we could bring back lost genes from museum specimens to endangered populations... that'd be awesome! ๐Ÿ’š But let's not get ahead of ourselves and start thinking we can just bring back the past. The extinction debate is super complex and we need more nuanced understanding of what's possible with gene editing.

The thing is, Colossal's approach might give some people false hope. Like, if someone wants to save animals but doesn't understand how science actually works... ๐ŸŒณ they'll be disappointed when it doesn't work out. We gotta have a critical conversation about de-extinction and its limitations, not just hype it up as some magic solution.

Anyway, I'm watching this story closely and I hope Colossal can deliver on their promises without spreading misinformation. ๐Ÿ’ฏ
 
๐Ÿบ๐Ÿ’ก I don't think Colossal's de-extinction promise is as rosy as they make it out to be... Like, yeah, reviving extinct species sounds super cool and all, but what are the chances that they're actually bringing back a fully functional species? I mean, 20 edited genes is not exactly the same thing as creating an entirely new species. ๐Ÿค” And can we even trust their methods if they're so dismissive of critics? It's like, okay, Ben Lamm says science is being attacked by his company, but really isn't he just trying to silence people who are questioning their motives?

Gene editing is a great tool for conservation efforts, don't get me wrong... ๐ŸŒฟ But we need to be realistic about what it can and can't do. If Colossal's approach is basically just creating poor copies of extinct species, then what's the point? It feels like they're more interested in getting attention and funding than actually doing real science.

I'm all for saving endangered species, but let's not get too carried away with these de-extinction promises... ๐Ÿบ๐Ÿ’” We need to have a critical discussion about what gene editing can really do and when it's not worth pursuing. Just because we want to save animals doesn't mean we should compromise on science itself.
 
omg u guys colossals deextinction promise is like so sus ๐Ÿคฃ i mean dont get me wrong im all for saving our planet and all but come on theyre just editing 20 genes into grey wolves lol its not even close to being the dire wolf ๐Ÿ˜‚ and ben lamm is literally trying to spin this as science when really hes just trying to get attention and $$$ ๐Ÿ’ธ i feel like colossal is more about being famous than actually making a difference ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I gotta say, I'm all for trying new things, especially when it comes to saving endangered species ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’š. But, come on, Colossal's claims are getting a bit out of hand ๐Ÿคฃ. If they're just gonna slap some edited genes onto a grey wolf and call it a dire wolf, then what's the point? ๐Ÿค” I mean, I'm all for using gene editing to help conservation efforts, but let's not pretend like we're bringing back a fully formed species just yet ๐Ÿ”ฅ.

And can we talk about how Colossal's CEO is basically attacking anyone who doubts their methods ๐Ÿ˜’? That's just not cool, dude. As someone who loves animals and the environment, I want to see real progress and results, not just a bunch of hype ๐ŸŒŸ.

But hey, maybe Colossal will surprise us all with some amazing breakthroughs ๐Ÿ”ฎ. Until then, let's keep having this nuanced conversation about what gene editing can (and can't) do for conservation ๐Ÿ’ก. And if we're gonna try to bring back extinct species, let's at least be real about it and not spread misinformation ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
I'm not sure if Colossal's de-extinction promise is just too good (or bad?) to be true ๐Ÿค”. I mean, bringing back extinct species sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie, but at the same time, it could potentially save some critically endangered species ๐ŸฆŠ. On one hand, I think it's awesome that the company is trying to push the boundaries of gene editing tech and make conservation efforts more effective ๐Ÿ’ป.

On the other hand, I'm concerned about the lack of transparency and scientific rigor behind their claims ๐Ÿคฏ. If they're only able to edit 20 genes into grey wolves and call it a day, then what does that really mean for the dire wolf's revival? ๐Ÿบ It just seems like a PR stunt to me, but at the same time, I'm not entirely sure if de-extinction is even possible in the first place ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

I do think there are some potential benefits to gene editing tech in conservation, especially when it comes to saving species from genetic bottlenecks ๐ŸŒŸ. But we need to be careful not to get too caught up in the hype and forget about the science behind it ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. Overall, I'm cautiously optimistic about Colossal's efforts, but I think they need to take a step back and re-evaluate their goals and methods ๐Ÿค”.
 
I think Colossal's whole de-extinction thingy is kinda fishy ๐ŸŸ... I mean, if they're just messing around with 20 edited genes, how can that really bring back a species? It's like trying to copy-paste a cat's fur onto a dog and expecting it to be the same ๐Ÿค”. I get that gene editing has its benefits, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. We need to understand what we're actually dealing with before we start playing God ๐Ÿ‘€.
 
I'm a bit worried about Colossal's approach ๐Ÿค”... I mean, if we're trying to bring back species, shouldn't we be aiming for a realistic goal? 20 edited genes on top of grey wolves doesn't sound like a whole new species to me ๐Ÿ˜... and what about the moa project? Nic Rawlence seems pretty level-headed in his concerns ๐Ÿ™... I don't think Colossal is being super transparent about their methods, either ๐Ÿคฅ... still, it's interesting that they're working on reintroducing lost genes into endangered populations โ€“ that could be a game-changer for conservation ๐Ÿ‘... but let's keep an eye on the science behind it, you know?
 
can't believe people actually think these companies can just magic up extinct species ๐Ÿ™„ meanwhile dire wolves are literally living their best lives as grey wolves, no need for a "true" version ๐Ÿ˜‚ also love how colossal's CEO is like the ultimate troll, tries to silence critics but ends up getting roasted ๐Ÿคฃ
 
I donโ€™t usually comment but I think Colossal Biosciences needs to be more transparent about their methods and what they can actually deliver ๐Ÿค”. Reviving extinct species sounds like an amazing concept, but if it's just a grey wolf with 20 edited genes that's not a whole different thing. I mean, wouldn't we rather focus on saving the actual animals we have now? And yeah, Ben Lamm comes across as kinda aggressive when he attacks critics โ€“ maybe they should focus on having respectful conversations instead of getting defensive ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

It does seem like there are some benefits to gene editing in conservation, though. Saving species from genetic bottlenecks is definitely worth exploring. But we need to be realistic about what can be achieved and not get our hopes up too high ๐Ÿšซ. It's all about finding a balance between innovation and science-based decision-making.
 
THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS RIGHT TO BE SKEPTICAL ABOUT COLLOSSAL'S CLAIMS. REVIVING THE DIRE WOLF WITH JUST 20 EDITED GENES IS NOT DE-EXTINCTION, IT'S LIKE MAKING A POOR COPIE OF A FAMOUS CAR - IT LOOKS GOOD AT FIRST BUT TURN OUT TO BE A CLONE. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT COLLOSSAL'S CEO IS TRYING TO UNDERMINE TRUST IN SCIENCE BY ATTACKING CRITICS.
 
I dont think we should get too hyped up about de-extinction right now ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, sure, it's cool to imagine being able to bring back extinct animals like dire wolves or moas, but let's not forget that science is tricky and rarely perfect. Like with Colossal Biosciences' efforts - they're using gene editing to try and bring back extinct species, but experts are saying the results aren't exactly what people expect ๐Ÿค”. The thing is, extinction happens for a reason, and it's hard to fully restore an ecosystem just by tweaking some genes. We need to be realistic about what we can achieve through science and conservation efforts, rather than getting caught up in hype and misinformation ๐Ÿ’ก.
 
I'm kinda worried about this de-extinction thingy... like, I get why people are excited, but Colossal's approach seems all shady ๐Ÿค”. I mean, if they're not even creating a truly extinct species, what's the point? It's just gonna be some genetically modified wolf looking all cute and stuff, but it's still not the real deal ๐Ÿ˜.

And honestly, I think this whole thing is being used as a marketing gimmick to get people excited about science and conservation ๐Ÿค‘. I mean, let's not forget that Colossal's CEO is basically getting roasted for attacking critics... like, what's up with that? ๐Ÿ™„

But at the same time, I do think there's some value in using gene editing technology to help save endangered species ๐ŸŒŸ. Like, if we can introduce lost genes back into critically endangered populations, that's totally a win-win ๐Ÿ’š.

So yeah, I'm all for exploring this tech and finding ways to make conservation more effective... just let's keep it real and not get too caught up in the hype ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
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