2 supervisory officers testify in Luigi Mangione's evidence suppression hearing

Supervisory officers testify Mangione's arrest was lawful, despite lack of warrant for search.

Two Altoona police supervisors testified Thursday that arresting Luigi Mangione on charges of murder and forgery without a search warrant was lawful because he was already in custody. The testimony came as the sixth day of a suppression hearing in New York City to determine what evidence will or won't be used against Mangione when he goes on trial.

Sgt John Burns, a 12-year veteran of the Altoona Police Department, testified that officers had sufficient reason to believe Mangione had been involved in another jurisdiction's crime. "My decision was we didn't need a search warrant," Burns said. "He was in custody for an incident in Pennsylvania, so it falls under search incident to arrest."

When asked if any writings were found in the bag, Burns replied yes, including loose papers with handwritten notes. Among these notes was one with a crudely drawn map of Pittsburgh and surrounding cities, and another that read "pluck eyebrows."

However, Mangione's defense team maintains that the lack of a warrant made the search and seizure illegal. They also claim officers were too late reading Mangione his Miranda rights and continued to pepper him with questions after he indicated he preferred to remain silent.

Lt William Hanelly defended the warrantless search of Mangione's backpack, testifying that he directed officers to take Mangione into custody after consulting with an assistant district attorney about charges. "It's a warrant exception in Pennsylvania," Hanelly said. "Police can search the person and their items."
 
๐Ÿค” This whole thing is just so weird... I mean, I get it that they had reason to believe Mangione was involved in some other crime, but do they really need to throw around terms like 'search incident to arrest' willy-nilly? Like, didn't they have a chance to read him his rights properly first? ๐Ÿ˜• And what's up with the handwritten notes and map? Is that just some random stuff or is there more to it than meets the eye? ๐Ÿค“
 
can't help but think how stressful it must be for Luigi Mangione right now ๐Ÿ˜ฉ his lawyers are fighting hard to get his evidence tossed out, which is totally fair given the lack of a search warrant ๐Ÿค” it's all about protecting people's rights. Sgt John Burns' testimony that there was sufficient reason to believe Mangione was involved in another crime does make sense, but still gotta feel for Mangione and his team ๐Ÿ‘
 
I don't get why Mangione's lawyers are making such a big deal out of this ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. The cops had reason to believe he was involved in another crime, so they made an arrest without a warrant โ€“ it's not like they just went door-to-door looking for random people ๐Ÿš”. And yeah, maybe they found some weird stuff in his bag, but that doesn't mean the search itself is illegal ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ. It sounds like the cops followed the law and did what was necessary to make an arrest. If Mangione's worried about the search, he should've just told them no ๐Ÿ˜’.
 
omg did u no mangione was already in custody?! like, it totally makes sense why they didn't need a warrant 2 search his bag ๐Ÿ˜‚ btw, i'm lowkey impressed by sgt burns he's like, a total pro for figuring out that the search incident 2 arrest thingy is legit ๐Ÿ’ฏ and i mean, those handwritten notes tho! that crude map of pittsburgh is giving me LIFE ๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ can't wait 2 see what else they find at trial ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿš” This whole thing is a bit shady if you ask me... I mean, what's up with having enough info to think a search wasn't needed but then still not getting the guy his Miranda rights until like 30 minutes after he was already cuffed? It sounds like the cops were more interested in finding some incriminating papers than actually doing their due diligence. And that sketch of Pittsburgh... is that even relevant to the case? I'm not saying Mangione's guilty or anything, but it seems like there might be some questionable judgment going on here ๐Ÿ˜
 
I'm so confused ๐Ÿคฏ... I mean, I think it's kinda cool that police got to make an arrest without a warrant, but at the same time, I don't know if they did everything right... Like, Sgt Burns said they didn't need a search warrant because Mangione was already in custody, but what if they messed up his Miranda rights or something? ๐Ÿค” That would be bad news. But on the other hand, Lt Hanelly said it's a special exception in Pennsylvania law, so I guess that means they did follow the rules... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Wait, no... that doesn't make any sense. Maybe Mangione's lawyers are right and it was all shady? ๐Ÿค I don't know what to think anymore ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
Ugh I'm still trying to wrap my head around this Mangione case ๐Ÿคฏ. So basically, he was already in custody for another crime and the cops still decided to search his bag without a warrant? Like what's the point of even having a Miranda warning if they're just gonna ask him stuff after he says he doesn't wanna talk? ๐Ÿ™„ It seems like they were trying to catch more evidence but ended up making things worse for themselves. I don't know, maybe I'm just reading too much into it because I'm still stressed about my exam tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. But seriously though, isn't a search warrant kinda important or something? ๐Ÿค”
 
I don't know man, it just feels like another weird case. Like back in '95, remember that episode of CSI where they were investigating this guy and the DA was all about getting him to confess? It's kinda similar here, but with a backpack instead of a confession booth. And what's up with those handwritten notes? A map of Pittsburgh and some random eyebrow plucking instructions? Sounds like something out of a bad crime novel. I mean, I get that Mangione was already in custody, but do they really need to find excuses for every little thing? It just feels like another case of the system trying to squeeze as much evidence as possible out of it. ๐Ÿ˜
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, I get it, they thought Mangione was already in custody so no need for a warrant... but what about those papers in his bag? That map of Pittsburgh looks super suspicious ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. And "pluck eyebrows"? What's that even supposed to mean? ๐Ÿ™„

And don't even get me started on the Miranda rights situation... if they were too late, didn't that just make everything worse? It feels like a big mess ๐Ÿค•. I'm not saying Mangione is innocent or anything, but it does seem like there's some grey area here ๐Ÿ˜.

I guess what's really interesting is how this case is going to play out in court... will the officers' testimony hold up? Or will Mangione's defense team be able to prove that the search was a total bust? Either way, I'm hooked ๐Ÿค”.
 
OMG, like I'm shocked but also kinda expected this?! ๐Ÿคฏ The fact that they're saying Mangione was already in custody and therefore didn't need a search warrant is wild to me... I mean, shouldn't they have been more careful about following protocol? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ And those handwritten notes with the weird map and eyebrow pluckin' note? Like, what's up with that?! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Anyway, this suppression hearing is getting pretty intense, let's see how it all goes down...
 
[Image of a person with a confused expression, surrounded by papers and police badges] ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿš”

[Screenshot of a cop asking someone to put their hands behind their back, with a red "EXCEPTED" stamp on it]

[Still image from the movie "The Shawshank Redemption", with a character whispering "get busy living... or get busy dying"]

[A GIF of a person's eyes widening in surprise, with a "WRONGFUL SEARCH" stamp in bold letters]
 
๐Ÿค” this is wild... so basically they're saying it's okay to search someone without a warrant if you already have them locked up for another reason? like, what's next? searching your phone while you're waiting in line at the DMV? ๐Ÿšซ I don't get how that exception thing works... it seems like just an excuse for cops to do whatever they want. ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
The police are tryin' to say they did everything by the book, but I'm still not convinced ๐Ÿ˜...they're just using that whole "search incident to arrest" thing as an excuse, like it's some kinda loophole ๐Ÿค”. And what's up with those weird notes in Mangione's bag? Like, a map of Pittsburgh and "pluck eyebrows"? Sounds legit ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ...anyway, I think they're just trying to cover their own backsides ๐Ÿ˜….
 
I'm so confused about this whole thing ๐Ÿค”... Like, I get that Mangione was already in custody for another incident, but does that really mean he had to be searched without a warrant? It seems like a bit of a slippery slope... if you can just search someone because they're already in trouble with the law, then what's stopping the cops from searching them whenever they want?

And those writings in Mangione's bag... I don't get why they're being used as evidence ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ... seems like they could be pretty random stuff. Is that really enough to connect him to a murder and forgery charge? And didn't the officers just read Mangione his Miranda rights way too late, which means he probably can't even say if he wants to talk or not anymore?

I'm curious to know more about these warrant exceptions in Pennsylvania... how do they work exactly? Are there any limits on when a police officer can search someone without a warrant? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” this whole thing is kinda fishy... i mean, come on, a crudely drawn map of Pittsburgh and "pluck eyebrows" - what does that even have to do with murder and forgery? seems like a stretch to me. but at the same time, if mangione was already in custody for another incident, i can see how search incident to arrest would apply... guess we'll just have to wait and see what the judge says about it all ๐Ÿ˜
 
I find it quite fascinating how Sgt Burns leveraged the concept of "search incident to arrest" to justify the warrantless search of Mangione's backpack ๐Ÿค”. This exception, as articulated by Lt Hanelly, ostensibly permits the police to conduct a search on a suspect in custody without obtaining a prior warrant โ€“ provided that the subsequent evidence obtained is directly related to the underlying reason for the arrest.

However, it seems to me that this approach may be subject to some critique regarding the potential for overreach and the importance of adhering to established procedures. The fact that Mangione's defense team disputes the legitimacy of the search raises intriguing questions about the limits of such exceptions and the safeguards necessary to prevent abuses of power ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
omg i think its kinda harsh on mangione lol, like who expects a warrntless search? ๐Ÿคฏ anywayz sergio mangiones defence team is being super dramatic about it, like chill guys its not the end of the world. the cops were trying to protect ppl and prevent another crime from happening so yeah sure they did what they had to do. ๐Ÿ˜‚ the fact that there was a map of pittsburgh and stuff in his backpack is pretty sus tho but idk if thats enuf to warrant (lol warrntless search) a full-blown trial
 
I'm not sure I buy this whole 'search incident to arrest' thing ๐Ÿค”. It seems like a convenient loophole for cops to exploit, especially when they're not even sure what they'll find. And what's up with the handwritten notes in Mangione's bag? A crudely drawn map of Pittsburgh and some weird references... it sounds like something out of a bad thriller novel ๐Ÿ˜‚. But seriously, the fact that officers were too late reading Mangione his Miranda rights is concerning - it raises questions about coercion and police procedure.

I also think it's interesting that both Burns and Hanelly testified that the search was lawful because Mangione was already in custody. It implies that if you're arrested, you're basically fair game for a full-on search without any oversight ๐Ÿš”. Not exactly what I'd call 'protecting and serving' ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I THINK THIS WHOLE THING IS SO CONFUSING!!! WHY DID THEY NOT DO THE Search WITH A WARRANT IN THE FIRST PLACE???? IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG MESS TO ME!!!! ๐Ÿคฏ AND WHAT'S WITH THE MAP OF PITTSBURGH ON ONE OF THE PAPERS?? WAS IT SOME KIND OF CLUE OR JUST A RANDOM DRAWING??? ๐ŸŽจ
 
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