Why it's ridiculous to call our new train system 'Great' British Rail | Martin Kettle

Britain's new rail system is being touted as the 'Great' British Railways, but it's a name that's more hype than substance. The term "great" has become a marketing tool for the government to sell its rebranding efforts, but it's misleading and fails to reflect reality.

The origin of the word "Great Britain" dates back to 1 AD when the Roman Empire named the island after itself, not because of any inherent greatness. Over time, however, the name has taken on connotations that aren't entirely accurate. The government has actively promoted the idea of British greatness, which only serves to alienate and mislead the public.

The new rail system's branding is a perfect example of this phenomenon. It's puffed-up, boastful, and out of touch with the public's expectations. The name implies that the railways are better than they actually are, which isn't true. This approach will only perpetuate distrust in politics and hinder efforts to rebuild trust.

The problem runs deeper than just a rebranding exercise. It's also reflective of a broader obsession with British greatness that's losing traction, especially outside of England. The public wants efficient, well-run services that provide good value, not empty promises of greatness.

Labour's adoption of the "Great" moniker for its own rail plans is misplaced and serves only to reinforce this sentiment. Instead of pretending to restore lost British greatness, the party should focus on creating a stronger, more coherent framework within which to tackle infrastructure and utilities issues.

A more nuanced approach would be to use names like Railways UK or Energy UK, which at least acknowledge the country's complexities rather than resorting to outdated nationalism. This would provide a clearer institutional framework for reform and give policymakers a better chance of achieving meaningful change.

In short, Britain's new rail system needs a name that reflects its true nature: a complex network of services that require careful planning and management. Anything less is just empty rhetoric.
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, come on... "Great" British Railways? It sounds like they're trying to sell us on some kind of myth, you know? ๐Ÿ™„ Like, what even does it mean? That the railways are inherently better than they actually are? ๐Ÿ˜‚ No, no, no. It's just a marketing gimmick.

And don't even get me started on how it's gonna affect trust in politics... not good vibes for that. ๐Ÿ’” The public wants real change, not some empty promises of greatness. And Labour jumping on the bandwagon with "Great" too? ๐Ÿ™„ That's just more of the same old thing.

I mean, Railways UK or Energy UK would be way more realistic and practical... something that actually acknowledges the complexity of it all. ๐Ÿ˜Š Not this "great" nonsense. It's like they're trying to make up for lost time with some fancy branding. ๐Ÿ™ƒ
 
I'm only reading this now ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ lol, thread must've been super popular back then! But seriously, I gotta agree with the OP - the whole "Great" thing sounds like a PR stunt to me ๐Ÿ’ผ. Like, who needs that much hype? Can't they just focus on making it work? ๐Ÿš‚

And what's up with the Labour party adopting the same name? It feels like a case of copy-pasting ๐Ÿ˜…. Don't get me wrong, I love a good brand identity as much as the next person, but come on! A more nuanced approach would be nice ๐Ÿ‘.

I mean, Railways UK or Energy UK sounds way more down-to-earth to me ๐Ÿ™Œ. No need to get all nationalistic and stuffy about it ๐Ÿ˜. Can't we just focus on making things better for everyone? ๐Ÿค
 
Wow ๐Ÿ’ฅ the way the government uses marketing to sell their rebranding efforts is so cringeworthy ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, who needs "great" when you can have practical and efficient? Interesting how they're trying to tap into that whole British greatness vibe again though ๐Ÿค”
 
Honestly, I think the government is trying too hard to convince us that this new rail system is some kind of game-changer ๐Ÿš‚๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. The name "Great British Railways" just sounds like a load of old bollocks ๐Ÿ˜’. I mean, it's not like we haven't seen plenty of rebranding exercises before and they never really deliver on the promises. It's like they're trying to convince us that this is some kind of "great" leap forward ๐Ÿš€ but honestly, I'm just not buying it ๐Ÿ’ธ. Can't we just have a simple name like Railways UK or something? That would be so much more sensible in my opinion ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
I feel like they're trying to recreate the magic of the old British Rail all over again ๐Ÿš‚. Remember when it was just about getting from point A to B without breaking the bank? Nowadays, it's all about branding and hype... I mean, what happened to the good ol' days when we had stations with character, not just soulless modern architecture?

And don't even get me started on the name "Great Britain" - it's just so... British ๐Ÿคฃ. You know, back in my day, we didn't need all that fuss about being great or whatever. We just got things done.

I'm with you on this one - more practical names like Railways UK would be a better fit. Less nationalism, less hype, and just good ol' common sense ๐Ÿ™. That's what I want to see in our infrastructure plans, not some made-up notion of greatness that's just going to confuse everyone.
 
I'm so over this Great thing already ๐Ÿ˜’. I mean, can't they just give it a normal name like London Underground or something? ๐Ÿš‚ It's all about marketing and PR, right? The public doesn't care about "greatness", we care about getting from point A to B without being stuck in traffic... or waiting ages for the next train! ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51243929
 
omg what's up with this "Great" branding thingy? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ it's like they're trying to convince us brits we're all that again lol, but let's be real, the UK's not exactly known for its greatness right now ๐Ÿ˜ anyway, i think labours plan is whack too, rail UK or energy uk should be the way forward ๐Ÿš‚๐Ÿ’ก at least it acknowledges our complexities, you know? like, we can't just pretend to be all great again and expect ppl to believe us ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ
 
๐Ÿ˜’ I think the gov is trying to make us believe we're all about being a superpower again like we were back in the day, but let's be real, it's not working. ๐Ÿš‚ This "Great British Railways" thing is just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna spend a lot of cash and pretend it's gonna solve everything". Meanwhile, the trains are still slow and stuff ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Labour should focus on creating actual change, not just regurgitating old slogans that don't even ring true anymore ๐Ÿ™„
 
can't believe brits are falling for this marketing crap again ๐Ÿ™„. it's all about spin doctoring & pretending like they're some kinda rail empire ๐Ÿš‚. newsflash: britain's rail system is still a mess, and renaming it doesn't magically fix it ๐Ÿ˜’. it's just more of the same old nationalist nonsense that's supposed to make us feel good but really just makes us doubt the gov's intentions ๐Ÿค”. let's not forget, the name "Great Britain" was actually given to them by romans lol ๐Ÿ‘€. so yeah, no thanks on this "great" rebranding attempt ๐Ÿ‘Ž
 
Ugh, can't believe this new "Great" thing ๐Ÿ™„... It's like they're trying to make us believe we're still living in the empire days or something ๐Ÿคฃ. Newsflash: Britain isn't even that great anymore ๐Ÿ˜‚. We've got problems and they just want to sweep them under the rug with some fancy name change ๐Ÿšฎ. And what really gets me is how it's going to alienate people, you know? Like, I'm all for a good rail network, but do we need to pretend like it's some kind of game-changer ๐Ÿ’ฅ? I mean, let's just call it Railways UK or something, give us a break ๐Ÿ™ƒ. The whole thing just feels so... try-hard ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ. And don't even get me started on Labour jumping on the bandwagon ๐Ÿ˜’. They should be focusing on actual reform and not just playing along with this greatness nonsense ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
 
I don't know about this Great British Railways business ๐Ÿค”. It sounds like the government is trying to make a big deal out of something that's not entirely necessary. I mean, have you seen the state of some of our older trains? They need renovation, not a fancy new name! ๐Ÿ˜‚ What they should focus on is making sure the rail system is efficient and reliable for everyone, not just throwing around words like "great".

I think it's time to ditch the "Great" label and go with something more down-to-earth. Like Railways UK or Energy UK - these names at least acknowledge that Britain's got a lot of different regions and needs ๐ŸŒŽ. It would be refreshing to see some politicians focus on practical solutions rather than just trying to make themselves sound impressive ๐Ÿ’ผ. The public wants real change, not empty promises of greatness ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
omg did u see britains new rail thingy?? ๐Ÿš‚๐Ÿคฏ i think the gov is just tryna be all hyped up about it but like, they're being super misleading lol ๐Ÿ™„ "Great" british railways sounds like somethin straight outta a marketing campaign ๐Ÿ“ˆ not exactly what ur expectin from a rebranding effort. i mean, britain's always been a cool place and all but "greatness"?๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ it's just not that simple anymore ๐Ÿค” maybe they should just stick w/ somethin like Railways UK or Energy UK? ๐Ÿค at least that sounds more down to earth & less nationalistic ๐Ÿ™ what do u think tho?? ๐Ÿค”
 
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